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antsmed77
level 1

40 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2006 :  18:09:54  Show Profile  Email Poster
new to the forum but a friend of mine is going to sell me a lt4 hot cam kit he got off of summit part no nal-12480002 it has the cam valve springs and roller rockers can i use the springs and roller rockers the rockers are self aline and i think i seen some wear you can't use that type on the lt1 head should i get the kit or jest buy the cam

94 SS z28 gages 96 floor shifter moonroof

95ImpalaSS
level 2

236 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2006 :  19:22:22  Show Profile  Email Poster
You might want to do some more research on other cams before you buy the LT4 cam. There are some better options out there. I did months of research before I finally chose a cam. I started out with the LT4 cam and changed my mind after i did research on it. Whatever cam you chose you deff. need to change the valve springs and timing chain. Crane Cams makes some great valve springs for our cars. When it comes to the rockers its all up to your bugget. With a mild cam i would say its safe to use the stock rockers, when changing to roller rockers you might free up another 5-15hp depending on your setup. Hope this helps.

1995 Impala SS. AI 190cc heads, Tri-y headers and hook-ups, flowmaster exhaust, K&N fliter/intake, 3.73's, comp cam 502, BBK underdrive pully, 160 deg. thermostat, LT4 KM, throttle body bypass, camaro intake elbo, edge stall conv., 30lb Ford SVO's. 52mm throttle body, pcmperformance tune.
Soon to come:

Racetronix fuel pump and wiring harness.



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96capriceMGR
level 5

5237 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2006 :  19:53:03  Show Profile  Email Poster
The rockers that come with that kit are fine but the springs are not. As already covered there are a lot of other cams out there many better.

The LT4heads/intake and LT4 HOT cam popular because of a vicious cycle of ignorance NOT because they are that good. The cam is cheap which helps too but ignorance is the big reason.

Dwayne
96 Caprice, 200cc Advanced Induction heads and cam package 11.5 and 116mph, Pro-built.net tranny and Edge racing converter
94 Caprice wagon, stock
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Lukes95@23
level 5

3294 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2006 :  22:35:45  Show Profile  Email Poster
wow didn't know the HOT cam was THAT bad..

95DGGM Impala SS
ISSCA#2140
Fresh LT1, 2.02/1.60 valves,1.6rr's,new springs and pushrods, SRP pistons, Eagle 6" Rods, LT4 Hotcam, Tri Y's,cut outs, Hooker cat back, 30# SVOs, LT4 KM, powdercoated RAISS w/AF2, 52mm TB, TB bypass, Air/Egr delete, 3.73's, Eaton posi, MSD Blaster coil, Pro-Built Street/Strip trans, Edge 2800 TC, F-body front sway, Ha/Ho rear sway, BMR RLCA's, body bushings, Bilstiens, Moog "problem solver", clear coners,91 tails, Hyper whites, LEDS,BLINK BLINK kit, Billet grill, tint, black carpet, Bonnies, dashmat, custom floormats/hoodliner/trunkliner,Limited 22's, and Super Heter to the rescue.


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impalasspeed96
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3358 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2006 :  23:09:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Send impalasspeed96 an AOL message
quote:
Originally posted by Lukes95@23

wow didn't know the HOT cam was THAT bad..


I dont think it is. I've seen cars perform well with it considering how easy and cheap they are to come by. There are better choices out there though. I've seen a 12 second car pushing 20s with a hot cam, springs, 3200 stall, headers and 373s. Not bad runnin 12.90s pushing 20s IMO.

-96 SS DCM
-12.74@103, 1.74 60' out of fuel again.... When will I learn.
-06 AWD TBSS
-12.58@106, 1.76 60'
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KWBaraka
level 4

1850 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2006 :  00:51:58  Show Profile  Email Poster
quote:
Originally posted by impalasspeed96

quote:
Originally posted by Lukes95@23

wow didn't know the HOT cam was THAT bad..


I dont think it is.....

I agree. It just requires the right.....back-up .

KW

96 BBB w/396 CID,
Ported AFR 210cc Heads,
236/242 Comp Cam Custom Grind
SSRI, 58mm TB,
Clear Image Quad-1's with 3" cut-outs,
DynoMax 2.5" catback,
Yank 3000 Stall TC,
CPT Level-3 Tranny, TRANSGO Shift Kit, 3.73 Gears,
Various Brake & Suspension Mods,
Bryan Herter tuning, 11.81 @ 113.89......
419 rwHP & 450 rwTQ
SR 398 in the works!

Edited by - KWBaraka on 06/22/2006 00:52:29
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n/a
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4028 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2006 :  13:22:21  Show Profile  Email Poster
quote:
Originally posted by Lukes95@23

wow didn't know the HOT cam was THAT bad..



It can still be a good performer with the right torque converter, rear end gears, PCM program, springs/rockers, exhaust/headers....

Which is pretty much the same song for ANY aftermarket cam change, so it's definitely not a lose-lose situation.

1996 Caprice sedan, B4U LT1 DGGM, somewhat stock daily driver.
1994 Caddy Fleetwood Brougham, modded engine, paint, suspension, etc.
1992 Caprice wagon, L05, posi, 3.23s --> wife's grocery getter so not much planned.
B.a.D. Bodies of Chicago
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95ImpalaSS
level 2

236 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2006 :  15:13:27  Show Profile  Email Poster
The comp cam and valve springs I have were the last mods I did to my car and that combo put down 35 rwhp. And id like to know how a impala on 20s ran a 12 with just gears, stall, cam, and headers, cause I got those mods on stock rims maybe pushin mid/low 13's. Maybe there is some spraying going on

1995 Impala SS. AI 190cc heads, Tri-y headers and hook-ups, flowmaster exhaust, K&N fliter/intake, 3.73's, comp cam 502, BBK underdrive pully, 160 deg. thermostat, LT4 KM, throttle body bypass, camaro intake elbo, edge stall conv., 30lb Ford SVO's. 52mm throttle body, pcmperformance tune.
Soon to come:

Racetronix fuel pump and wiring harness.



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impalasspeed96
level 5

3358 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  13:11:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Send impalasspeed96 an AOL message
He has slicks in the backs, leaves his 20s on. 3200 stall, 373s, hot cam, springs, long tube headers, programming, cold weather.

-96 SS DCM
-12.74@103, 1.74 60' out of fuel again.... When will I learn.
-06 AWD TBSS
-12.58@106, 1.76 60'
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Lukes95@23
level 5

3294 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2006 :  16:45:37  Show Profile  Email Poster
quote:
Originally posted by BCs71

quote:
Originally posted by Lukes95@23

wow didn't know the HOT cam was THAT bad..



It can still be a good performer with the right torque converter, rear end gears, PCM program, springs/rockers, exhaust/headers....

Which is pretty much the same song for ANY aftermarket cam change, so it's definitely not a lose-lose situation.



So I am good to go!! 12 seconds here I come!!

95DGGM Impala SS
ISSCA#2140
Fresh LT1, 2.02/1.60 valves,1.6rr's,new springs and pushrods, SRP pistons, Eagle 6" Rods, LT4 Hotcam, Tri Y's,cut outs, Hooker cat back, 30# SVOs, LT4 KM, powdercoated RAISS w/AF2, 52mm TB, TB bypass, Air/Egr delete, 3.73's, Eaton posi, MSD Blaster coil, Pro-Built Street/Strip trans, Edge 2800 TC, F-body front sway, Ha/Ho rear sway, BMR RLCA's, body bushings, Bilstiens, Moog "problem solver", clear coners,91 tails, Hyper whites, LEDS,BLINK BLINK kit, Billet grill, tint, black carpet, Bonnies, dashmat, custom floormats/hoodliner/trunkliner,Limited 22's, and Super Heter to the rescue.


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96capriceMGR
level 5

5237 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2006 :  01:00:11  Show Profile  Email Poster
It's not that bad, it just isn't that good either.

I had three 12.5s tonight even hotlapping 180 degrees before one run. I had messed up too and only had 70miles on a full tank of fuel, then again maybe that is why I was able to consistently pull off 1.7s, full weight full street suspension setup. Just imagine what she will do come fall in good weather.

Dwayne
96 Caprice, 200cc Advanced Induction heads and cam package 11.5 and 116mph, Pro-built.net tranny and Edge racing converter
94 Caprice wagon, stock
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PAULYSS
level 4

1851 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2006 :  08:12:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit PAULYSS's Homepage
Id just be happy to see a 13 second time slip, I dont care if it s a 13.9 as far as I am concerned. Best I ran with the Hotcam last year prior to destroying some bearings was a 14.4 with a 1.8 60ft (street tires) It was a very hot day and I was having some issues with the belt coming off because ot the crank hub not being fully seated. THis is a slightly lower mileage LT1 I have now so we will see on July 30th I think I have potential for a 13.9-14.1 with current set up

96 Impala SS (13.9 @ 95) best to date
http://www.badbodies.com/

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impalasspeed96
level 5

3358 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  07:29:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Send impalasspeed96 an AOL message
Pauly, if all you think you're gonna run is a 13.9 i think youre off. What are you pushin in the rear? If you got some gears, you're lookin mid 13s.

-96 SS DCM
-12.74@103, 1.74 60' out of fuel again.... When will I learn.
-06 AWD TBSS
-12.58@106, 1.76 60'
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Lukes95@23
level 5

3294 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  10:00:10  Show Profile  Email Poster
Paul, I think that you will run a 13.5 no problem. If I can make it on July 30th. I will bring my drags radials and you can use them. My best time before I took out my motor was a 14.51. So you fo sho had some problems going on.

95DGGM Impala SS
ISSCA#2140
Fresh LT1, 2.02/1.60 valves,1.6rr's,new springs and pushrods, SRP pistons, Eagle 6" Rods, LT4 Hotcam, Tri Y's,cut outs, Hooker cat back, 30# SVOs, LT4 KM, powdercoated RAISS w/AF2, 52mm TB, TB bypass, Air/Egr delete, 3.73's, Eaton posi, MSD Blaster coil, Pro-Built Street/Strip trans, Edge 2800 TC, F-body front sway, Ha/Ho rear sway, BMR RLCA's, body bushings, Bilstiens, Moog "problem solver", clear coners,91 tails, Hyper whites, LEDS,BLINK BLINK kit, Billet grill, tint, black carpet, Bonnies, dashmat, custom floormats/hoodliner/trunkliner,Limited 22's, and Super Heter to the rescue.


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krash adams
level 4

1032 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  12:30:46  Show Profile  Email Poster
I was thinking of getting a hotcam myself what else is out there?


1996 BBB 25,933 of 41,941 BRIAN HERTER PROGRAMMING, FLOWMASTER AMERICAN THUNDER EXHAUST, RAISS RAM AIR SYSTEM, AIRFORCE 2, XENON HEADLIGHTS, HP/FB,AIR PUMP DELETE,THROTTLEBODY BYPASS,ENGINE OIL COOLER,MSD 6A IGNITION BOX, WIRES,BLASTER COIL,P-S-T FRONT END KIT, STEALTH BRAKE BOLT MOD,LT-4 KNOCK MODULE,CORVETTE DRESS KIT, BILSTEIN SHOCKS,BODY BUSHING KIT.

2000 CAMARO SS Ralley Red w/BLK top,Chrome 10 Spoke SS wheels.
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96capriceMGR
level 5

5237 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  19:36:10  Show Profile  Email Poster
What are you looking for? Bet I could point you at at least 50 different cams that could work depending on what you want.

Dwayne
96 Caprice, 200cc Advanced Induction heads and cam package 11.5 and 116mph, Pro-built.net tranny and Edge racing converter
94 Caprice wagon, stock
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PAULYSS
level 4

1851 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2006 :  20:25:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit PAULYSS's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by impalasspeed96

Pauly, if all you think you're gonna run is a 13.9 i think youre off. What are you pushin in the rear? If you got some gears, you're lookin mid 13s.



Still got the 3.08's So I am sure with 3.73's I could see that 13.5 and perhaps even better with some good headers. But If I did see a 13.9 Id be happy anything better is a bonus

96 Impala SS (13.9 @ 95) best to date
http://www.badbodies.com/

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impalasspeed96
level 5

3358 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2006 :  06:45:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Send impalasspeed96 an AOL message
Those mods will help. I see a 13.9 maybe. I mean the cam really helps but it needs to breathe properly too. I would definitely be saving for headers and 373's if i were you pauly.

-96 SS DCM
-12.74@103, 1.74 60' out of fuel again.... When will I learn.
-06 AWD TBSS
-12.58@106, 1.76 60'
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Posted - 06/26/2006 :  14:19:11  Show Profile  Email Poster
LOL, I remember in 2003 Eric in our club pulled a 12.7 with the Hotcam in his 9C1 budget build.
Stock manifolds, stock rockers, HOTcam, 3.73s, built tranny, crappy TC, and some spray.

Some guys just have all the luck.

1996 Caprice sedan, B4U LT1 DGGM, somewhat stock daily driver.
1994 Caddy Fleetwood Brougham, modded engine, paint, suspension, etc.
1992 Caprice wagon, L05, posi, 3.23s --> wife's grocery getter so not much planned.
B.a.D. Bodies of Chicago
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impalasspeed96
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3358 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2006 :  14:24:41  Show Profile  Email Poster  Send impalasspeed96 an AOL message
Spray solves all your time problems.......

-96 SS DCM
-12.74@103, 1.74 60' out of fuel again.... When will I learn.
-06 AWD TBSS
-12.58@106, 1.76 60'
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96capriceMGR
level 5

5237 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2006 :  16:26:52  Show Profile  Email Poster
Pretty much. Spray can make for awesome 60ft times and a quicker 60 is a quicker pass. Even a baby shot is an additional 75hp at the wheels that is a lot considering a HOT cam on stock heads/manifolds is going to be under 300rwhp to begin with.

Spray also adds similar torque across the WHOLE powerband not over a narrower band like an NA setup will.

Dwayne
96 Caprice, 200cc Advanced Induction heads and cam package 11.5 and 116mph, Pro-built.net tranny and Edge racing converter
94 Caprice wagon, stock
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